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	<title>Comments on: Country meets&#8230;me</title>
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		<title>by: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-3194</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 04:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Robin - 95.7  :)</description>
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		<title>by: Robin M.</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-3188</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ok, I just have a non-profound question: where on the radio dial have you found country music?</description>
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		<title>by: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2848</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 21:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Gail, your partnership sounds really remarkable.  Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems much more common for people to live and parent and partner with much less thought or intention.  I can imagine, though, how hard this particular difference must be to navigate - without kids for sure, but particularly with them.  Differences like these seem like they can push any two people toward more extreme ends of a spectrum than they'd otherwise inhabit, in efforts to balance each other out...which makes it all the more difficult for either person to move toward the other and also maintain dignity.  I wish you and all of us the best as we try to figure these kinds of challenges out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail, your partnership sounds really remarkable.  Maybe I&#8217;m wrong, but it seems much more common for people to live and parent and partner with much less thought or intention.  I can imagine, though, how hard this particular difference must be to navigate - without kids for sure, but particularly with them.  Differences like these seem like they can push any two people toward more extreme ends of a spectrum than they&#8217;d otherwise inhabit, in efforts to balance each other out&#8230;which makes it all the more difficult for either person to move toward the other and also maintain dignity.  I wish you and all of us the best as we try to figure these kinds of challenges out.
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		<title>by: GailNHB</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2843</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We have been partnered for over 20 years. We are still working to understand our differences and find common ground. But this area of television/media/ consumerism is a place where we disagree profoundly. 

Wisdom? I don't know. But I will say this: I am committed to giving my children a steady dose of my thoughts and beliefs in this area, to keeping television strictly monitored and limited when they are under my watchful care, and to being an example of reducing our consumption in as many ways as we can. I read aloud to them as often as part of our homeschooling and sometimes before bedtime. We go for walks together, play games, and when we do watch television together, I am the commentator in the corner critiquing commercials, pointing out the way that both men and women are portrayed and how those portrayals don't do men or women true justice, and pointing out the sexist, racist, violent attitudes that pervade the media. 

When they begin to ask for more stuff, I remind them of all the stuff we already have, of all that we thought we wanted and never made full use of, and that we are enough as we are - without any of the stuff that we are being sold. It's a tough sell at times, but I have not and will not give up the fight. Not with them and not with my husband either. 

There are many areas in which my husband and I are united, and those are far more numerous than those in which we are at odds. In the end, our marriage partnership and the children we are raising deserve the best efforts and wisdom we have. And in those areas where we disagree, we give each other and our children an opportunity to hear at least two opinions and figure out our own individual thoughts on any given topic. 

Twenty years and we are still figuring out who we are as a couple and what we are as a family unit. I suspect that the work will never end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have been partnered for over 20 years. We are still working to understand our differences and find common ground. But this area of television/media/ consumerism is a place where we disagree profoundly. </p>
<p>Wisdom? I don&#8217;t know. But I will say this: I am committed to giving my children a steady dose of my thoughts and beliefs in this area, to keeping television strictly monitored and limited when they are under my watchful care, and to being an example of reducing our consumption in as many ways as we can. I read aloud to them as often as part of our homeschooling and sometimes before bedtime. We go for walks together, play games, and when we do watch television together, I am the commentator in the corner critiquing commercials, pointing out the way that both men and women are portrayed and how those portrayals don&#8217;t do men or women true justice, and pointing out the sexist, racist, violent attitudes that pervade the media. </p>
<p>When they begin to ask for more stuff, I remind them of all the stuff we already have, of all that we thought we wanted and never made full use of, and that we are enough as we are - without any of the stuff that we are being sold. It&#8217;s a tough sell at times, but I have not and will not give up the fight. Not with them and not with my husband either. </p>
<p>There are many areas in which my husband and I are united, and those are far more numerous than those in which we are at odds. In the end, our marriage partnership and the children we are raising deserve the best efforts and wisdom we have. And in those areas where we disagree, we give each other and our children an opportunity to hear at least two opinions and figure out our own individual thoughts on any given topic. </p>
<p>Twenty years and we are still figuring out who we are as a couple and what we are as a family unit. I suspect that the work will never end.
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		<title>by: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2784</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Julianne, your home habits sound just the right pace for me.  And like a great alternative to the influences that affect so much of the world right now (i.e. tv and radio on constantly).  While I take in very little television and radio, it sounds like there's nevertheless a different nuance to the enoughness issues that you and I deal with.  That maybe yours relate with God, and mine relate with...hmmm...I think they relate to a nebulous standard of accomplishment that I carry around inside.  A sense that I should have already done so much more than I've done by now.  

Gail, your final questions are really tough ones.  It seems like the conversation is really different depending on the attitude of each partner.  If both are "in" - are really wanting to work at things together, to try to understand the differences and find common ground - then the conversation looks one way.  But if both *aren't" in, it seems totally different.  I'm not sure what situation you're in, but it sounds like you've been partnered for a long time.  If you have wisdom you'd like to share, I'm sure we're all ears.

Fran, this is hopeful news.  I have a hunch that you're exactly right about the number time can do on enoughness issues.  And yes, meaningful relationships are directly correlated with my sense that life is good.  Seasons where these are fewer are so much darker, and seasons where they're plentiful are golden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julianne, your home habits sound just the right pace for me.  And like a great alternative to the influences that affect so much of the world right now (i.e. tv and radio on constantly).  While I take in very little television and radio, it sounds like there&#8217;s nevertheless a different nuance to the enoughness issues that you and I deal with.  That maybe yours relate with God, and mine relate with&#8230;hmmm&#8230;I think they relate to a nebulous standard of accomplishment that I carry around inside.  A sense that I should have already done so much more than I&#8217;ve done by now.  </p>
<p>Gail, your final questions are really tough ones.  It seems like the conversation is really different depending on the attitude of each partner.  If both are &#8220;in&#8221; - are really wanting to work at things together, to try to understand the differences and find common ground - then the conversation looks one way.  But if both *aren&#8217;t&#8221; in, it seems totally different.  I&#8217;m not sure what situation you&#8217;re in, but it sounds like you&#8217;ve been partnered for a long time.  If you have wisdom you&#8217;d like to share, I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;re all ears.</p>
<p>Fran, this is hopeful news.  I have a hunch that you&#8217;re exactly right about the number time can do on enoughness issues.  And yes, meaningful relationships are directly correlated with my sense that life is good.  Seasons where these are fewer are so much darker, and seasons where they&#8217;re plentiful are golden.
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		<title>by: Fran aka Redondowriter</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2747</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 06:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Country does have a way of getting down to basics. It's in my later years that I've acquired a taste for it. For so long I felt "less than," but so much of that has fallen by the way in my later years. I guarantee it will be that way for you, too.

Silicon Valley is a lot like Palos Verdes where I work, but we slowly learn that "things" don't fill up the hole in the soul. Your hubbie and baby do, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Country does have a way of getting down to basics. It&#8217;s in my later years that I&#8217;ve acquired a taste for it. For so long I felt &#8220;less than,&#8221; but so much of that has fallen by the way in my later years. I guarantee it will be that way for you, too.</p>
<p>Silicon Valley is a lot like Palos Verdes where I work, but we slowly learn that &#8220;things&#8221; don&#8217;t fill up the hole in the soul. Your hubbie and baby do, however.
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		<title>by: GailNHB</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2740</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Beautiful writing here. When I read these comments, I am struck by how simple it can be to live well. Turn off the television. Read to one another. Eat simple and healthy food. Examine one's faith and figure out how much comes from whatever media source is in the pulpit or on the screen or at the Torah or Qu'ran. Be discerning. We are frail, physically, spiritually, emotionally, mentally. Why not be more gentle with one another and with ourselves: accept, hug, laugh, fail, fall, and then get up, hug again, laugh again, and embrace one another as we traverse this life path together. Be. Enough. Being is enough.

I recently read a book entitled "Eat to Live" which talks about the tremendous health benefits of raw fruits and vegetables. Clearer skin, weight loss, less stuffy nose problems, more energy, and easier digestive tract movement are all benefits that I have reaped in simply 8 weeks of following the plan. My daughter has embraced it whole-heartedly as we scarf down huge salads with flavored vinegars and fresh fruit every day. I highly recommend the book - I got it at the library. Along the way, we have drastically reduced our "recreational shopping habit" - we simply don't need anything - and learned the joy of sitting on the deck reading and drinking ice water on hot afternoons. 

Anyway, here's a question I struggle with: what does one do when one's partner loves television and commercials and shopping and McDonald's and more, more, more of all of the above? And what if one child is wholeheartedly following that path? 

Perhaps it's a larger question than that: what if one is at odds in some fundamental ways with one's life partner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful writing here. When I read these comments, I am struck by how simple it can be to live well. Turn off the television. Read to one another. Eat simple and healthy food. Examine one&#8217;s faith and figure out how much comes from whatever media source is in the pulpit or on the screen or at the Torah or Qu&#8217;ran. Be discerning. We are frail, physically, spiritually, emotionally, mentally. Why not be more gentle with one another and with ourselves: accept, hug, laugh, fail, fall, and then get up, hug again, laugh again, and embrace one another as we traverse this life path together. Be. Enough. Being is enough.</p>
<p>I recently read a book entitled &#8220;Eat to Live&#8221; which talks about the tremendous health benefits of raw fruits and vegetables. Clearer skin, weight loss, less stuffy nose problems, more energy, and easier digestive tract movement are all benefits that I have reaped in simply 8 weeks of following the plan. My daughter has embraced it whole-heartedly as we scarf down huge salads with flavored vinegars and fresh fruit every day. I highly recommend the book - I got it at the library. Along the way, we have drastically reduced our &#8220;recreational shopping habit&#8221; - we simply don&#8217;t need anything - and learned the joy of sitting on the deck reading and drinking ice water on hot afternoons. </p>
<p>Anyway, here&#8217;s a question I struggle with: what does one do when one&#8217;s partner loves television and commercials and shopping and McDonald&#8217;s and more, more, more of all of the above? And what if one child is wholeheartedly following that path? </p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s a larger question than that: what if one is at odds in some fundamental ways with one&#8217;s life partner?
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		<title>by: julianne</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2733</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>thank you all for your thoughts on this. Kristin, I begin to realise what you mean by not enoughness when you mention tv. We have never had a tv - so that's the past 10 years or so - and the radio we listen to is only online. I didn't even recognise the element of being not enough in the world's eyes. For the  most part, I don't struggle with this. I do think it helps to limit what is coming into your radar. I get my input from people I know (friends, family, and colleagues, in person and in email) and books (my husband and I read books aloud daily, usually in the morning over breakfast and in the evening when the other person is cooking or cleaning up). we have been very purposeful about choosing to live life this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you all for your thoughts on this. Kristin, I begin to realise what you mean by not enoughness when you mention tv. We have never had a tv - so that&#8217;s the past 10 years or so - and the radio we listen to is only online. I didn&#8217;t even recognise the element of being not enough in the world&#8217;s eyes. For the  most part, I don&#8217;t struggle with this. I do think it helps to limit what is coming into your radar. I get my input from people I know (friends, family, and colleagues, in person and in email) and books (my husband and I read books aloud daily, usually in the morning over breakfast and in the evening when the other person is cooking or cleaning up). we have been very purposeful about choosing to live life this way.
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		<title>by: Roger</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2730</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 03:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Having lived for three years with my wife and four kids in a remote part of Africa where we didn't have TV or malls or radio or even electricity, I can affirm that life offers "enough" without those influences.  One day is enough to celebrate Christmas, for example.  Simple gifts are as exciting as complicated expensive ones.  Letters from friends and family are great tresasures.  One of my favorite meals now that I am living where we have supermarkets and restaurants and ads for all kinds of luscious foods is rice and beans, which is what satisfied us every day in Africa.  Long family conversations around the dinner table seem to me to have been great pleasures.  But all those things are not enough living here for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having lived for three years with my wife and four kids in a remote part of Africa where we didn&#8217;t have TV or malls or radio or even electricity, I can affirm that life offers &#8220;enough&#8221; without those influences.  One day is enough to celebrate Christmas, for example.  Simple gifts are as exciting as complicated expensive ones.  Letters from friends and family are great tresasures.  One of my favorite meals now that I am living where we have supermarkets and restaurants and ads for all kinds of luscious foods is rice and beans, which is what satisfied us every day in Africa.  Long family conversations around the dinner table seem to me to have been great pleasures.  But all those things are not enough living here for some reason.
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		<title>by: Kristin</title>
		<link>http://www.kristinnoelle.com/2007/03/28/country-meetsme/#comment-2725</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Nate, it occurs to me, in relation to your comment, that unplugging from television could be one of the most self-esteem-building actions a person could take.  Unplugging from commercials alone would be a great start.  This wouldn't distance one from the influence of such things completely, since nearly everyone else would still be plugged in, but it seems like a start.  Lack of constant media bombardment would be an interesting hypothesis to explore to answer some of your questions, too, Julianne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate, it occurs to me, in relation to your comment, that unplugging from television could be one of the most self-esteem-building actions a person could take.  Unplugging from commercials alone would be a great start.  This wouldn&#8217;t distance one from the influence of such things completely, since nearly everyone else would still be plugged in, but it seems like a start.  Lack of constant media bombardment would be an interesting hypothesis to explore to answer some of your questions, too, Julianne.
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